"Making It Out Alive - Conscious New Thinking That Rocks - Providing New Perspectives for the Empowered Life" a Radio Show on Spirit Media Network. Join Ken Ludwig and his guests in August; Dr. James Rouse, Rev Georgia Prescott and Eddie Watkins

For those who do not connect with the 12 step model, for those who are finished with the 12 step model or for those who are looking to enhance their experience of the 12 steps; for anyone who seeks to enjoy a life of being recovered, "Making It Out A